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歡迎收聽股癌的線上節目第三集,我是謝孟恭


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現在的時間是3月2號的早上11點14分


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那很多網友反應說我們的聲音太小


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那是因為這個後來發現MacBook Pro我開20%就很大聲


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那換成PC一測試就發現真的偏小聲


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那有一位哥,網友建議呢他就講說


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把input調大把compressor開起來壓一下就ok了


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所以我照做了,compressor要開多少我不知道


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但就是把它打開來開一半的位置


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試看看這次聲音會比較好


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我們今天要討論Q&A的部分


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以及武漢肺炎對美中還有台還有世界的影響


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主要就講這些,那先講Q&A的部分


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早上看到博智(8155.TWO)跟倉和(6538.TWO)我們在板上提過的鎖漲停


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那當然我們從來就不是那種


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我們最討厭的那種邀功型的那種老師


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所以會講博智(8155.TWO)跟倉和(6538.TWO)就是進入我們Q&A的第一題


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因為有一個妹妹她私訊我們


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她說,嗨,這兩天你發文的倉和(6538.TWO)跟博智(8155.TWO)我都被嘎空


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嗚嗚嗚,她在哭啦,嗚呼


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掛號以檢討以後絕對不用賭牌


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以後絕對不用賭博的心態去"當沖"


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這邊就看到第一個關鍵字"當沖"


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然後呢說,想問問博智(8155.TWO)當天不想賠錢


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所以改成融券,結果越賠越多


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括號在130空,嗚嗚嗚繼續哭


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所以意思是講說他本來博智(8155.TWO)是想用現沖去空


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然後因為發現被嘎了,不想賠錢就是被嘎嘛


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所以他改成融券


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隔夜,然後說,目前來看是不是早點認賠買回比較好,感謝相助


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那貼了一個對帳單


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就對帳單一看更可怕


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他不是只空博智(8155.TWO)


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他空倉和(6538.TWO),就像他講的


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但是他倉和(6538.TWO)空的位置呢,在235塊


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那他博智(8155.TWO)空的位置呢,在131塊


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146.5還加空


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148又加空


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我給他的回覆是這樣


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不要做短線,不要空強勢股


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不要這樣操作,不然很快會畢業


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QQ,我也傳了QQ給他


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那他在禮拜四的時候呢


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密我說,今天答案揭曉,我的損失沒那麼慘重了


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禮拜四沒有開盤嘛


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所以他講的是禮拜三美國大跌


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那禮拜四又大跌,禮拜五又大跌


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所以等於三天大跌來救他


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結果今天博智(8155.TWO)跟倉和(6538.TWO)說漲停


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這個...


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不是要笑他啦


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就是說,為什麼會跟他講說


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不要做短線,不要空強勢股


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就是有一個指標,技術指標


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叫做布林通道


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BB Bands


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我們先不講太多他的來源


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或是什麼,先講他的原理


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布林通道會在你的技術線圖上面


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畫上下兩條線


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形成一個通道


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上下兩條線他的邏輯是這樣


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兩倍的標準差以內


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95%股價會在這裡面跳動


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所以也就是說,一般來說


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95%的機率股價會在


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他的上下標準差裡面


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就是他的區間裡面遊走


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以飆股來講


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最明顯的


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的跡象就是他頂著


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布林的軌道往上衝


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意思就是講說


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他不是尋常的95%


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他是有人一直在推他


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你先不管他推他的理由


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是什麼


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是先知


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他知道了發生什麼事情


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還是說,他就是在炒作


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還是說


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大股東要搶股權


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很常發生這樣


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我們先不管他理由什麼


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反正就是有人在推他


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他的均線又是很明顯的


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斜率很高的往上推


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所以這種就是我們講的


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強勢股,很明顯很強勢


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每天都有新高價的這種股票


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你千萬不要去放空


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不管你的理由是什麼


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千萬不要


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因為這個就是最直接的逆勢操作


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我們一直在強調的


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不能逆勢操作


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以現實的例子來講


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這就像是去打一場格鬥賽


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如果你要打一場格鬥系列賽


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你要對好幾個對手


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然後你可以選對手


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你要獲得最佳的表現


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你怎麼打


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只有呆頭鵝


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會第一場比賽就挑


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館長那種來打


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你要獲得最佳的表現


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你當然先挑那種最弱的


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最瘦的,看起來弱不禁風的


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先扁這種就對了


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你就可以一直往前進擊


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最後面再去打最難的


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打不贏就算了


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以股票的角度來講


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你就去順勢的操作


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最後面最難的


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把你打回去


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在波段的漲幅裡面


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出現一個超大的跌點


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超大的跌點


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很有可能就是人家出貨之類的


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反正看你怎麼判斷


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我夠了,我獲利出場


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這才是正常的


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現在放空強勢股的做法


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就是我一開始挑最強的打


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奇怪了,你台股1000多檔股票


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你不去挑走勢很弱的


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很殘弱的


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沒有題材的,沒有營收的


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技術線型又不好的


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你不去放空這種


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你去放空很強勢的


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而且你還不知道理由


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你還沒有很有把握的


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就去放空它


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這很奇怪


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這種操作非常奇怪


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這兩支股票今天開盤的時候


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還是綠的


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後來是一路往上衝


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所以我是希望你有回補


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是希望你有回補


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另外一個問題


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另外一位朋友提到說


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聽了你的頻道


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覺得很棒,很認同不要太主觀


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預期市場的觀點


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可不可以聊看看交易系統


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括號,資金分配加減碼


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風險控管


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風險控管剛才那個


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那個妹妹的例子就是


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你放空不要去空


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強勢的股


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那你做多不要去做弱勢的股


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不過當然市場上有一群人


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他們專門在做多弱勢的股


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他們叫什麼


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這些人他們稱自己為價值投資


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我們不在一缸


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那叫什麼


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一桿子打翻一船人


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當然價值投資


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很深奧


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很多價值投資的大師


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就買他的書來看


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我知道


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價值投資真的有這麼一回事


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但是很多人的價值投資


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譬如說他就是用過往的


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本益比


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他去算出一個


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合理的本益比買進的位置


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但是呢


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他這種模型的前提


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是建立在


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業界的行情


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或是這個公司的前景


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都是一直是一致的


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可是問題是在世界上沒有什麼東西是一致的


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他可以賺


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過去的十年


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不代表他可以賺未來的十年


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所以


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剛才講了放空強勢股跟這個


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做多弱勢股


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很多做多弱勢股就是他掉入這樣的陷阱


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他就是在他的股價崩跌的時候


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他覺得他撿便宜了


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但是


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後來會被雜誌訪問


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會上新聞的就是


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他真的上來了超級成功


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他上來成功的就叫做英雄


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那多的是你去撿


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他就嚇死了


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或是說他就從此一蹶不振的一大堆


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那除了這點之外


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還有一個很重要的風險控管就是不要借錢


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因為如果你不借錢的話


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破產跟你一點關係都沒有


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你股市做多


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買進現股了不起就是歸零


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但是如果你今天是像譬如說那妹妹你用空的


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你如果被鎖好幾根漲停


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或是說你反過來你是融資


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然後譬如說像以康友-KY(6452)的例子


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他漲得好好的突然就跌了一大堆的跌點


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從400跌到100多


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你只要遇到一個這樣的案子


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不要說自己遇不到


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都是有機會的


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你只要遇到一次


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然後你的資金又剛好一次放太多


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你就是直接出去


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而且還負債


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所以風險控管最主要就是


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不要借錢不要逆勢操作


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那這個資金分配跟加減碼


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用心裡面去討論


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所謂的資金分配加減碼


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它難的地方是在於


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如果你不是聽消息就亂進場


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亂買的散戶


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我們先推敲你是有研究的投資人


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當然你會研究他


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你會決定要買進真金白銀進場


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你一定是有信心


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但是信心有時候是雙面刃


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有時候變得太有信心


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他在買進之後他做的第一件事情


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是先算如果我賺30%


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我要怎麼花


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他不會去算如果我跌30%怎麼還


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又是大進大出


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大進大出有一個缺點就是


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除非這個筆錢真的是你完全用不到


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你很灑脫


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我認識的這樣的人不多


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就是他很明確的知道


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我股票的錢就是股票的錢


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這種人不多


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大部分人還是希望說我可以從股票「賺」補貼生活費


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類似這樣的心態


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可是這樣就比較可怕一點


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因為你就會受影響


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所以你可能大進大出的結果


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就是你買進然後一跌你就賣掉了


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或者是說你買進可是沒漲多少你就賣掉


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然後你後來賠交易成本


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這種很常發生


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所以資金把它拆成好幾個部分是有必要的


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因為這會讓你在投資的過程中


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心性會比較穩定一點


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就以基本面跟技術面兩種進場方式來講


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基本面你會算出一個合理的價位


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所以你講的很甜的價位


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跌到某個價位很甜你就去買


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但很多時候就是事與願違


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甜還有更甜


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然後最後又甜到出汁,甜到出水


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一直往下跌


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每天都便宜給你更甜的價位


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如果說你是一次all in就買在你


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第一個講的那個很甜的價位


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那你會覺得你買的價位


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是很便宜


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所以你會覺得你買的價位


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就是你講的那個很甜的價位


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你後來撐不住的機會非常高


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你會懷疑自己


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所以如果你可以分兩次或三次進場


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那心態上會差非常多


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這要有試過才知道


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那以技術面的角度來講


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如果你買一個突破


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然後你買了之後它就回測


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講好聽就回測


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那有時候就是回跌嘛


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可能這個作手


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就不想拉了嘛


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有時候是這樣它拉起來


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然後接著拉我就是讓你們當沖隔日沖


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跟著賺嘛


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而且我拉的這個它需要花的錢


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就更多


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所以它情願拉的時候先放著給你回跌


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你要跑的先跑一跑再繼續拉


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那回跌的時候


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有時候回跌是直接把譬如說你突破的這一根


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整個跌掉


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那以技術面的操作原則


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跌掉你就要出場嘛


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最典型的原則是這樣


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所以如果你大進大出你一次買了三百多萬


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跌回去


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你是不是就嚇死了


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你可能就出光


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然後就賠錢


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最後發現一直在賠這種


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所以如果你分成三批的話


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就變成你可能突破買進


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那如果它有繼續上漲你看對了


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你就再買進


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可能最後走到某個平台


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盤整一下又再往上就繼續買進


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就剛好三次把它買完


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那或者說你買進它往下跌


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那可能跌到某個位置又往上攻


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你又再買進


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你只要有子彈可以打你就不會這麼慌


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這比起你一次大進大出


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這個心態上是差非常多的


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所以講到資金控管跟加減碼


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我認為這個做法是對的


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就是你還是要以股價來


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驗證自己的判斷


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因為


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不要騙自己講說投資


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是什麼看好某個公司


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支持他,沒有這種事


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大家來投資就是為了賺錢


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那賺錢的方式


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要嘛就是資本利得賺價差


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你要賺配息


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可是配息要記得要有填息喔


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沒有填息不算你賺的


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所以既然都是為了賺錢


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那我們就可以用股市的價格


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股票的價格來驗證


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自己的判斷是不是正確的


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因為大多是你不知道的事情


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以一般散戶來講你的消息


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來源是新聞跟研搜


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還有一個更慢的是財報


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那以比較有管道的散戶


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像我自己算是


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比較有管道的散戶


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那我至少我拿到很多券商的報告


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跟投行他們的評價


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在這邊也先提一下


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今天有人在我們的粉絲專頁講說


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其實投資就是完全是法人圈跟投資圈


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他們自己在玩自己在喊價


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沒有啦,其實法人圈跟投資圈


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他們吃土的機會


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就我自己看來也蠻高的


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譬如說他們看好某個


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二線的晶圓代工廠


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以及他的子集團說


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他們目前把他的Target Price TPE


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一直往上拉拉拉


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覺得他們的營收會很好


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一直在追蹤這些股票


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結果後來全部吃土


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這個是那時候看到


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好幾家同時有傳這樣的消息


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但是他們都倒了


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他們會傳給我的


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不是放給一般散戶的消息


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是他們是真的


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他很有把握


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他有朋友他才會分享說


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這個可以注意,我們大家都在講這個


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結果他吃土


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你最下面就是看新聞的散戶


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再來就是可能有一些管道的散戶


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再來還有網上的做手跟公司派裡面的人


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他們知道的更多


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所以很多時候


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你的判斷你覺得


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他會這樣走


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可是最後面事與願違


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那可能就是因為你不知道的原因


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讓他下跌而已


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所以說


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如果說你看對


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你才加碼


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你看錯的話


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你不知道原因是什麼


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但是你買了他就是一直跌


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那你其實就可以當作自己看錯


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除非你真的是非常有信心


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對自己非常有信心


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那你可以試看看


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你就試個幾次


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比如說你看錯了


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然後你就是繼續


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相信自己是看對的


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你就是認為股價目前冤枉了


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那你可以試看看


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那記得就不要融資不要借錢


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你就買了放著,你就驗證看看嘛,但應該啦,大多的時間


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那其實就代表其實是你看錯


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只是你當下可能


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消息還沒出來


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你還不知道


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那今天QA就先講這兩位


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就好了


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那我們就講一下這個武漢肺炎


402

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武漢肺炎在義大利的部分


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直接噴了50%的


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案例,一天內


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那其實前面就講過


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因為我蠻常去義大利的


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所以對整個義大利


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或是歐盟國家的觀察


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他們的疫情會爆發其實不太意外


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目前是把美股下跌了


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至少大家是這樣覺得


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那把美股下跌大家就在講說


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川普不用選了


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那我在上一集節目


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講說其實美股直接參與投資的


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這個美國人是非常少的


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美股大跌的原因


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我認為是


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基金的散戶


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下到賣出


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迫使基金經理人必須去


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賣出現股


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要贖回嘛


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市場上把現股賣出


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所以造成這個


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一系列的崩跌


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那當然後續


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會不會有那種大型退休


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基金的操盤人


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動作比較慢他們不是即時的


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他們會不會再賣造成


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更下一波的下殺我們不知道


434

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但是我們還是回歸我們自己的


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操作原則就是目前很明顯的強勢空頭


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即便今天反彈看起來很爽


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可是還是不要


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貿然的


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在這個時候去買進


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這樣是比較好的策略


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那上次有提到


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美股直接參與的人很少


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所以我就找了一些數據來佐證


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自己的說法


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分享給大家


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在美國如果你是後面


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資產量是後面25%的人


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你持有的股票平均是


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1700美金


450

00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000

25%到49.9%


451

00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000

是3300美金


452

00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000

所以都很少


453

00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000

那75%到89.9%


454

00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000

就是你是前25%


455

00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000

有錢的人你持有的是


456

00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000

28000美金


457

00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000

但是到90%到100%


458

00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000

最有錢的Top 10他持有的是


459

00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000

200000美金


460

00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000

所以貧富差距是


461

00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000

蠻大的


462

00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000

所以美國人他們持有的


463

00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000

直接參與


464

00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000

市場投資的人是少的


465

00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000

那有錢的這部分的人


466

00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,000

以我自己的觀察


467

00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000

他們應該不會是川普的支持者


468

00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,000

應該比較偏民主黨的支持者


469

00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,000

從上次選舉看來是這樣子


470

00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000

川普的支持者


471

00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000

比較草根一點


472

00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000

那因為直接參與市場投資的人少


473

00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000

所以對他們來講說


474

00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,000

股市失火就好像是


475

00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,000

隔壁


476

00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000

隔壁家燒起來跟他們一點關係都沒有


477

00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000

真的會影響到他們


478

00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000

他們的就業以及消費


479

00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,000

一般美國人的就業和消費


480

00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000

所以說


481

00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000

如果美國也跟中國一樣


482

00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000

假設疫情有爆發


483

00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000

的狀況或是說為了


484

00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000

預防這樣的可能


485

00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000

必須要停工


486

00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000

或者說因為供應鏈斷鏈


487

00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,000

沒有工作可以做


488

00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000

目前可能會發生預防性裁員


489

00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,000

如果有這樣的狀況的話


490

00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000

那就會很嚴重


491

00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000

美國人大部分是沒有存款的


492

00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000

所以說他今天


493

00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000

如果沒有存款他要怎麼去付


494

00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000

房貸、車貸


495

00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000

那他們如果不消費的話


496

00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000

就會非常嚴重


497

00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000

要記得美國的內需市場很大


498

00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000

那他也是推升


499

00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000

本波股市上升


500

00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000

的一個必要的條件之一


501

00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000

所以如果連


502

00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,000

美國本土都出現這樣子的問題的話


503

00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000

那可能就會非常嚴重


504

00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000

他也可能會是下一波下跌的


505

00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000

主要的原因之一


506

00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000

所以我們必須持續的


507

00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000

去追蹤這個因素


508

00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000

中國部分是公佈了


509

00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000

PMI指數


510

00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000

PMI指數是


511

00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000

採購淨利指數


512

00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000

他是製造業的一個重要指標


513

00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,000

他公佈的這個數字呢


514

00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000

比2008金融海嘯還要低


515

00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000

所以目前中國的狀況


516

00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,000

是真的不好


517

00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000

那當然很多人在這個數據公佈


518

00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,000

就講說因為中共一直以來都是


519

00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000

不給人信任嘛


520

00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000

所以他們認為這個數字應該


521

00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000

再要更低


522

00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000

那這就回到我們之前講的


523

00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000

因為中國的資訊不透明


524

00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000

以及大家對共產黨的不信任


525

00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000

所以很多的陰謀論都會看起來


526

00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000

很合理


527

00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000

那當然如果你今天不是在從事


528

00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000

投資跟操作的話


529

00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000

你可以全力的看壞中國沒關係


530

00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000

你可以很討厭他們沒關係


531

00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000

這邊先補一下警語


532

00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000

以防我自己被出征


533

00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000

因為很多網友提醒過說


534

00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000

現在很多中國你不是講壞的


535

00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,000

你就被出征了


536

00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000

我自己是特戰傘兵退伍的


537

00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000

愛台灣保家衛國衝第一耶耶耶


538

00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000

所以警語下完了


539

00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000

那回到剛剛講的


540

00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000

為什麼不要看壞


541

00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000

就是全力看壞的


542

00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000

就拿2月3號的例子來講


543

00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,000

中國的新春開始


544

00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000

大家都把那時候壞消息甚囂塵上


545

00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000

而且他封關封了這麼多天


546

00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000

所以很多人在開盤跑去放空


547

00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000

那後來發生什麼事情,大家都知道了


548

00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000

他的新春開盤就是最低點


549

00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,000

之後就一路往上軋


550

00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,000

那你當然可以嗆說


551

00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000

是因為你國家隊在護盤


552

00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000

或是因為你中國的韭菜散戶就是白痴


553

00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000

在亂買可是又怎麼樣


554

00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000

結果就是你被軋了


555

00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,000

所以很多時候你可能看對


556

00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,000

就是中共


557

00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000

它真的是一個惡劣的政權


558

00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000

必定會垮台


559

00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000

好了,假設你看對


560

00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000

但是如果你在不對的時間去放空它


561

00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000

還是非常危險


562

00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000

所以PMI數據開出來非常不好看


563

00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000

但是大家又認為它更壞


564

00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000

那如果說你今天看到這樣的結果


565

00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,000

你認為跟中共的經濟依存度


566

00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,000

很高的台灣


567

00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000

禮拜一一定完蛋了


568

00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000

為什麼因為美股已經大跌成這樣


569

00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000

中共PMI要這樣


570

00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000

那你跑去放空


571

00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000

那今天放空的結果是什麼大家也看到了,台指期從200點嘎到要回平盤


572

00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000

所以


573

00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000

怎麼講


574

00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000

市場就是很賤


575

00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,000

它就是


576

00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000

已經預期會發生的事情


577

00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000

它早就已經在


578

00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000

市場的數據裡面


579

00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000

結果已經出來了


580

00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,000

這就是市場效率說的一個說法


581

00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000

也就是說你所有知道的訊息


582

00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000

其實都已經反映在股價裡面


583

00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000

我們大家怕的


584

00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000

或是說


585

00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000

會讓股價產生影響


586

00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000

影響的是你還不知道的事情


587

00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000

所以你已經知道的事情


588

00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000

就沒有什麼影響


589

00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,000

有幾個網友留言滿有趣的


590

00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000

我覺得很有道理


591

00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000

如果今天大家都得過武漢肺炎


592

00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,000

全球確診就是爆掉了


593

00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000

股市就要大噴了


594

00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000

非常有可能


595

00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000

不過當然這是不考慮


596

00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000

停工或是說怎麼斷鏈


597

00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000

如果今天假設這個利空是已經


598

00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000

大家都知道


599

00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000

就像是之前的貿易戰


600

00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,000

貿易戰你一開始


601

00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000

跟著大家去轟轟鬧鬧在討論區裡面吵架


602

00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000

然後看空中國


603

00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000

看空美國


604

00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000

去看空台股都OK


605

00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000

你在事情剛發生的時候


606

00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000

去講都OK可是


607

00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,000

貿易戰一打打了兩年


608

00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000

快兩年


609

00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000

在後期中後期


610

00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000

基本上他後來跟劉鶴在那邊周旋


611

00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000

貿易代表


612

00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000

在那邊討價還價


613

00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000

如果那時候你還在拿貿易戰


614

00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,000

當成是一個操作的依據


615

00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000

那你真的太晚太晚了


616

00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000

你可能會講說


617

00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000

隨時還有突發的狀況


618

00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000

可是你要有很優秀的判斷能力


619

00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000

請問突發的狀況是什麼


620

00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000

那時候貿易戰打到後期


621

00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000

最常見的就是上漲的時候


622

00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000

就說貿易戰有進展


623

00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000

下跌的時候就說


624

00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000

可能要重新談判


625

00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000

新聞就這樣子


626

00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000

耍無賴


627

00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000

播一樣的東西播了


628

00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000

一年左右


629

00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000

我們過去的一年就是在看這樣子的新聞


630

00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000

所以武漢肺炎


631

00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000

對股市的影響


632

00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000

最後我相信他也會鈍化


633

00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000

你把歷史線圖拉出來看


634

00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,000

就會知道所有的利空


635

00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000

他對股市的影響


636

00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000

到最後都會趨近於零


637

00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000

就是所有的利空


638

00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000

他在反應完之後


639

00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000

後續的東西如果都是在人們


640

00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000

可預期的範圍之內


641

00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000

那他就不再是一個利空


642

00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000

所以貿易戰


643

00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000

就好像武漢肺炎


644

00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000

或是就好像之前的


645

00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000

SARS,MERS,H1N1


646

00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000

雖然H1N1台灣沒有什麼感覺


647

00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000

但其實都一樣


648

00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,000

如果今天大家已經確定了


649

00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000

譬如說他的


650

00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000

確診的速率


651

00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000

是多少


652

00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000

他的死亡率是多少


653

00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000

因為大家不相信中國嗎


654

00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000

說他的死亡率是假的


655

00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000

我們就看中國外面的


656

00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000

這也確定了,疫苗的開發


657

00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,000

已經上軌道了


658

00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000

預防的做法已經有了


659

00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000

對應的方法已經有了


660

00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,000

那從此之後


661

00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000

武漢肺炎他就不會是一個利空


662

00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000

但是新聞一定還會繼續報


663

00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000

可能還會繼續報個半年


664

00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000

一年兩年


665

00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000

但是對股市的影響就已經趨近為零了


666

00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000

這時候就要該聚焦於


667

00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000

接下來


668

00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000

譬如說可能現在以


669

00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000

比較淺的


670

00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000

做法的人


671

00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000

他們還在關注武漢肺炎


672

00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000

本身疫情的狀況


673

00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000

但是研究比較深的


674

00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000

可能已經開始去關注


675

00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,000

譬如說


676

00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,000

停工


677

00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000

停工跟復工率


678

00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000

這個數字也是有一點


679

00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000

問題的


680

00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000

我是認為說復工率


681

00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000

這個名詞沒有太大


682

00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000

以致就是在玩文字遊戲


683

00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000

你應該要關注的是產能


684

00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000

到底開回來多少


685

00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000

復工率


686

00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000

我復工了可是我裡面沒人


687

00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000

或是我產線只開了10%


688

00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000

因為人沒有回來


689

00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000

所以這是玩文字遊戲


690

00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000

剛才講了就是說如果我們還在


691

00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000

只專注在武漢肺炎


692

00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000

的疫情上


693

00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,000

可能已經慢了


694

00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000

我們現在要關注的除非他這個


695

00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000

瘟疫的本身有突變


696

00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000

那是另外一回事


697

00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000

進展到


698

00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000

因為這個肺炎


699

00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000

所導致的經濟影響


700

00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000

包含說會不會沒有料


701

00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000

會不會斷鏈


702

00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000

這個是我們要關注的以及接下來要關注的


703

00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000

會不會讓美國


704

00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000

有預防性裁員的動作


705

00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000

我們要記得


706

00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000

時時的要想在市場的前面


707

00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000

那想在市場的前面


708

00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000

其實是很孤獨


709

00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000

很困難的事情


710

00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000

所以這時候就很感謝我們有股癌


711

00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000

就是至少大家可以在這邊討論


712

00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000

因為你自己


713

00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000

收集消息


714

00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000

是可能沒有辦法那麼


715

00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000

全面你看的東西


716

00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000

大家一天的時間就這麼多


717

00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000

你沒有辦法看那麼多的東西


718

00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000

所以可以討論是好的我也很感謝


719

00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000

大家都會留言討論


720

00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000

各種說法都OK


721

00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000

雖然有些留言跟


722

00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000

比如在我們社團裡的PO文很明顯


723

00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000

一看我覺得是陰謀論


724

00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000

但是我還是尊重你的看法


725

00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000

所以我們多方涉略


726

00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000

最後做出自己的判斷


727

00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000

這樣是最好的對自己沒有損失


728

00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000

所以希望在這集之後


729

00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,000

我剛剛Q&A前面提到的


730

00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000

一個老哥跟一個妹妹


731

00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000

那個老哥的問題是還好


732

00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000

那妹妹可能你不要介意


733

00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000

我沒有講出你是誰


734

00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000

但是你的案例我覺得非常值得分享給大家


735

00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000

所以如果有


736

00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000

更多問題或是說


737

00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000

想要討論的其實可以直接在我們的


738

00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000

留言討論


739

00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000

我也不是真正一等一的專家


740

00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000

我們的粉絲有很多是


741

00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000

很強的專家


742

00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000

所以或許你在留言討論你可以獲得更多的意見


743

00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000

但是如果


744

00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000

我覺得有不錯的案例我會拿出來


745

00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000

跟大家討論看看大家有什麼想法


746

00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,000

那我們今天節目就到這邊


747

00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000

如果有更多的意見


748

00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000

或是一些建議


749

00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000

歡迎私訊給我或是留言


750

00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,000

謝謝大家



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