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美國這週娛樂圈的大事之一,是年輕當紅音樂人Billie Eilish 出櫃事件。阿姨看完了以後,覺得有必要要提醒年輕人,你的性向是你的私事,有人問你的話,你完全不需要回答。注意,你回答這個問題以後,他們一定會有更多的問題。比方,假設你是一個男生,你說你是異性戀好了。對方可以問:

 

「你怎麼能確定?」

「你又沒有和男生交往過,你怎麼知道你不是同性戀?」

 

同樣的質疑,可以用在所有關於性向的問題上。比方,你說你是同性戀,別人可以問,你怎麼知道? 你有和異性交往過嗎?

 

也許你可以說,你有,所以你很確定你是同性戀。你以為這樣他們就會算了嗎?

 

不會!! 他們會說,那是那一個人不適合,不表示所有異性都不適合。哪天你碰到適合的異性、你就知道、人生就是要和異性交往才圓滿。

 

你說你是雙性戀的話,他們也會有別的問題。你可以試試看 不過我建議你不要說你自已,你說可以說, 我聽說路人甲是雙性戀, 看他們怎麼反應。

 

總之,如果有人問你於你性向的問題,你有絕對的權利不要回答,因為,這真的完全不干他們的事。此外,不論你的答案是什麼,都不是好的答案、只會延伸出更多更複雜沒必要回答的問題。

 

除了跟你交往的對象以外,你不需跟任何人交待你的性向。不管你性向如何--同性戀、異性戀、雙性戀、無性戀--大家都應該要尊重你、你都有投票權、十八歲以上都能飲酒…等。你的性向跟你的朋友、同事、同學們都無關。

 

此外,只要你一回答,你的答案,會影響到你接下來的人生。也許,你十六歲的時候,覺得那個男的好帥、18歲的時候,覺得那個女的好美---那你就得交待為什麼你16歲的時候說你喜歡男生,而今天卻喜歡女生。

 

你喜歡誰,是你和那個人的事,你不需要跟任何人交待。

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十一月的時候,當紅音樂人Billie Eilish在接受訪問時,曾談及自已受女性吸引。當時她說:

“I love [girls] so much. I love them as people. I’m attracted to them as people. I’m attracted to them for real….I have deep connections with women in my life, the friends in my life, the family in my life. I’m physically attracted to them. But I’m also so intimidated by them and their beauty and their presence.”[1]

 

她當時表示,她成長的過程裡,會預設女生不喜歡她,所以她青少年時,沒有辦法好好的和女生相處 (she couldn’t “relate to girls very well” as a teen)[2]

 

以上為故事背景,下面是今天要討論的故事。

 

3.

十二月初的時候, Eilish去領獎。在接受訪問時,一位自已已經出櫃的記者問Eilish, 她現在還會覺得女生不喜歡她嗎? (才過一個月而已? Eilish現在也才21歲?) Eilish回答說,「我還是會怕女生,可是我覺得女生很漂亮。」 (I’m still scared of them, but I think they’re pretty.”)

 

出櫃記者接著問:「你是要出櫃的意思嗎?) ("Billie, did you mean to come out in this story?")

Eilish 說,雖然她自已的身份認同是同志(LGBTQ),但她很對那些標籤很反感。

 

她接著說,(下面我快速亂翻) 我沒有要出櫃。我自已一直覺得,不是一直都很明顯嗎? 我不知道大家其實不知道。我不喜歡標籤。我們不能就好好活著嗎? 我一直都這樣,但我不想聊這件事。(“No, I didn’t [mean to come out]. But I kind of thought, ‘Wasn’t it obvious?’” she said. “I didn’t realize people didn’t know. I just don’t really believe in [the concept of labels]. I’m like, ‘Why can’t we just exist?’ I’ve been doing this for a long time and I just didn’t talk about it. Whoops.”)

接下來,陸續有人出來說明,為什麼她的出櫃事件很重要,簡單的說,就是因為社會上還有很多人想迫害同性戀。如果有影響力的名人願意出櫃、站出來的話,對所有同志來說,都很很重要、很有意義的事。這讓年輕的同志們看到,當同志還是可以有光明的前途、幸福的人生的。

 

這個事件裡,Eilish沒有出櫃。她是「被出櫃。」

 

沒錯,她的出櫃,對很多同志,是個正相的消息,也讓一般人看到,同志也是很有才華、很好的。

 

但是,她真的沒有義務為了給誰的人生希望、願景,而討論自已的私生活。

 

沒有任何人,應該為了幫助任何團體或個人,而逼別人出櫃。


 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/billie-eilish-came-heres-why-192443770.html?guccounter=1

 

Billie Eilish came out. Here's why it still matters.

David Artavia      Tue, December 5, 2023 at 2:24 PM EST·6 min read

 

Billie Eilish recently came out as LGBTQ, and now she has the whole world praising her for it.

 

After opening up about being “attracted” to girls in a recent interview, singer Billie Eilish is navigating a new chapter, both personally and publicly.

 

“I love [girls] so much. I love them as people. I’m attracted to them as people. I’m attracted to them for real,” the singer, 21, said in the November cover story for Variety’s “Power of Women” issue. “I have deep connections with women in my life, the friends in my life, the family in my life. I’m physically attracted to them. But I’m also so intimidated by them and their beauty and their presence.”

 

That wasn’t always the case. Growing up, she always assumed that girls didn’t like her, which is partly why she said she couldn’t “relate to girls very well” as a teen.

 

On Dec. 2, the singer addressed her comments while attending Variety’s “Hitmakers” brunch, where she and her brother and collaborator Finneas accepted the Film Song of the Year Award for the Barbie ballad, “What Was I Made For?”

 

On the red carpet, journalist Tiana DeNicola, who identifies as LGBTQ, asked Eilish if she’s since changed her mind about the assumption that women don't like her: “I’m still scared of them, but I think they’re pretty,” the singer said.

 

DeNicole followed up, asking, "Billie, did you mean to come out in this story?"

 

Eilish said that while she identifies as LGBTQ, she resents the idea of needing to label herself at all.

 

“No, I didn’t [mean to come out]. But I kind of thought, ‘Wasn’t it obvious?’” she said. “I didn’t realize people didn’t know. I just don’t really believe in [the concept of labels]. I’m like, ‘Why can’t we just exist?’ I’ve been doing this for a long time and I just didn’t talk about it. Whoops.”

 

After seeing the article, Eilish told DeNicole, “I was like, ‘Oh, I guess I came out today!’” Adding, “It's exciting to me because people didn’t know so it’s cool that they know. ... I’m nervous talking about it. But no, I am for the girls.”

 

Eilish coming out still matters

According to a November 2023 report from UCLA’s Williams Institute, one in six young adults ages 18-24 identify as either lesbian, bisexual, queer or trans. For the majority of that population, says Dr. Eric Yarbrough, a New York City-based psychiatrist focusing on queer youth, seeing out and proud celebrities offers hope that “they too can live a happy and productive life,” free of discrimination.

 

“Politics has shown us that we are still living in a world of uncertainty around LGBTQ rights, and visibility and representation can have a powerful positive impact on public opinion,” he told Yahoo Entertainment.

 

“Billie Eilish commented that sexuality shouldn’t matter,” he added. “And while I hope we live in a world like that someday, we aren’t there yet.”

 

“It will always matter for celebrities to come out because they have huge followings who look up to them and are influenced by them,” Village Voice contributor Michael Musto told Yahoo, explaining that “out celebs” help to “normalize [queer people’s] sexuality as nothing to hide or be ashamed of.”

 

That’s supported by data from the Trevor Project, an LGBTQ youth suicide prevention organization. According to its 2022 survey, 79% of queer youth reported “feeling good” when musicians come out as LGBTQ. In a separate 2023 survey by the organization, LGBTQ youth ages 13-24 were asked what the world would look like if all queer people were accepted. Their top responses included: People “can be who they want to be.”

 

To that end, Yarbrough says, “out and proud” role models with large platforms like Eilish give young people the confidence to not only advocate for themselves, but also for each other.

 

Being outed

When the Variety event was over, Eilish took to social media and acknowledged the outlet for outing her, despite having made the declaration in print.

 

“Thanks Variety for my award and for also outing me on a red carpet at 11 am instead of talking about anything else that matters,” she wrote. “I like boys and girls. Leave me alone about it, please. Literally who cares.”

 

“Outing” refers to the “act of publicly revealing (sometimes based on rumor and/or speculation) another person’s sexual orientation or gender identity without that person’s consent,” according to GLAAD, the premier LGBTQ media advocacy organization. Historically, outing has been used to weaponize and exploit the LGBTQ community.

 

It’s different from coming out, which describes a “lifelong process of self-acceptance” about one’s sexual orientation. It’s a personal decision one makes to disclose their identity with loved ones, close friends, work colleagues or even to themselves — on their own terms.

 

Eilish's post has been liked by more than 4.5 million people as of Tuesday afternoon, and while the overwhelming majority express support and encouragement for the singer, some fans commented on the difference between coming out and being outed.

“Billie please change your language relating to this,” a fan wrote. “Please do not make ‘outing’ some sort of buzzword for your discomfort when there are teens misplaced every single day for being outed.”

 

“It's not really fair to say ‘outed on a red carpet,’” another wrote. “You had a conversation with a gay interviewer about the cover story where you came out. She was doing her job. Representation is still important.”

 

Musto, who was well-known in the 1990s for pressuring celebrities (including Rosie O’Donnell and Ellen DeGeneres) to come out, illuminates the conversation even further.

 

“Outing is a harsh term that simply represents equal gossip reporting,” he explained, pointing to the number of journalists — like Perez Hilton and Michelangelo Signorile, widely considered a pioneer of outing public figures — who notoriously pressured celebs to come out in the ’90s and ’00s.

 

As Musto explains, outing celebs was never meant to ruin careers or lives, but rather to give LGBTQ people the visibility they needed at the time.

 

“The media always reported on [straight] celebrities’ private lives, often in ways the celebs didn’t want or appreciate, but they drew the line at queer reporting, partly out of their own squeamishness on the subject,” he said. “The result was queer media, myself included, simply saying ‘This celebrity is gay! They should come out!’”

 

As cultural acceptance for LGBTQ people increased, the need to out celebrities became unnecessary. "And that’s what ‘outers’ were always fighting for,” Musto said.

 

There are exceptions, however. Rebel Wilson went public in 2022 after a journalist threatened to out her, for example. Heartstopper star Kit Connor also claimed to come out as bisexual after “feeling forced” to do so by fans.

 

Regardless of how it happened, the significance of Eilish coming out cannot be overstated, said Musto, noting that it’s important for people to have perspective — and compassion — for everyone’s journey.

 

“[Eilish] probably wants to control the narrative and will keep evolving toward the exact way she wants to define and label herself,” he said. And we should be OK with that.


 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/granderson-cares-billie-eilishs-sexual-203752451.html?guccounter=1

 

Opinion

Granderson: Who cares about Billie Eilish's sexual orientation?

LZ Granderson

Wed, December 6, 2023 at 3:37 PM EST·4 min read

 

This last week, two conflicting messages have emerged from the world of pop culture, and I am unsure which represents progress.

 

In one corner we have “Renaissance: A Film by Beyoncé” — a cinematic showcase and celebration of the queer influence in her latest tour and music. This last weekend it opened No. 1 at the box office, a testament to her gravity and artistry.

 

In the other corner, we have Billie Eilish accusing Variety magazine of outing her. The Grammy and Oscar winner turned to Instagram to express her displeasure, using phrases such as “instead of talking about anything else that matters” and “literally who cares.”

 

For context: Variety did not out Eilish.

 

She had mentioned in an on-the-record interview that she was “physically attracted” to women and that “I’ve never really felt like a girl,” and this was reported in a Variety cover story in November. The fact that Eilish initially spoke to the magazine about her attraction to women so nonchalantly was refreshing. It revealed a measure of peace about her identity as opposed to trepidation.

 

Her objection came later, after a red-carpet event on Saturday where she faced questions about the comments. Maybe the context felt confrontational. Who knows. What’s clear is she doesn’t think sexual orientation is a topic for the public to dwell on.

 

Beyoncé very much does. She reportedly began construction of the album and tour nearly five years ago, aiming from the outset to elevate the contributions and lives of queer people of color — particularly those who are trans and nonbinary. This began as an homage to her fans as well as her gay “Uncle Johnny” who introduced her to aspects of queer culture that influence her today.

 

So there’s one answer to Eilish’s question of “who cares” about a person’s sexuality: Many of the people seen in Beyoncé’s concert film care about representation. The ones who couldn’t hide growing up. The ones who did and hated it. The ones who never thought they would see someone like themselves on the big screen.

 

You know who else cares? Crusaders like House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.).

 

He cares so much he’s spent much of his professional life attacking queer rights. We recently learned he wrote a forward to a book that included anti-gay sentiment. And now he’s second in line to the presidency.

 

Eilish, who is 21, wasn’t really wondering who cares about sexual orientation. She probably meant the remark to suggest what should be a societal norm, as in: Why is her sexual orientation a topic worth discussing anyway? Such a fair point. Unless she’s now dating Taylor Swift, who cares, right? That is the goal: to have it not matter.

 

Eilish’s sexual orientation and gender identity shouldn’t matter, but we don’t yet live in that world. We live in a world where 315 anti-LGBTQ+ bills were introduced last year. Where more than 520 had already been floated by May of this year: laws against drag, against gender-affirming care, against books. Laws enshrining a right to discriminate.

 

I know what Eilish was trying to say.

 

I also know what conservatives are doing in the world that we live in now.

 

The disconnect explains why the Renaissance tour resonated in the manner in which it did.

 

It wasn’t about making political statements in defiance of those who seek to do us harm. It was about being heard despite the legislative and cultural attempts to silence us. Remember, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis cares so much about us that he championed a “don’t say gay” bill.

 

So as much as I embrace progress toward a time when sexual orientation and gender identity are non-issues, I can’t yet think “who cares?” The Republican Party is constantly reminding us that they do: They want queer people erased. The Beyoncé fan base resoundingly told us that they, too, care about representation: They need to see queer people of color celebrated at long last.

Unfortunately, Eilish’s “who cares” comment is more aspirational than a sign we have actually progressed to that point as a society. No matter how good it feels to say it.

 

 



[1] David Artavia “Billie Eilish came out. Here's why it still matters,” Yahoo Entertainment,

 https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/billie-eilish-came-heres-why-192443770.html?guccounter=1 Accessed 2023/12/08

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要證明性侵/強暴案件發生,重點是證明雙方是否「同意」發生性行為。如何證明這性行為是不是「合意」的呢? 「合意」或「同意」與否,是一種心理狀態,不是一種物理事件,所以受害人拿不出物理性的證據很正常。但,他拿不出證據證明自已不同意,就表示他同意嗎?
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多數人失去機會,是因為他們從沒開口。 拜託別人幫忙,並非「損人利己」的事,而是「利人利己」的事 「多數人失去機會,是因為他們從沒開口。」事業上成敗的關鍵不只是個人的能力和努力,還要有提出要求、請求協助,協力共好的勇氣和信心。然而在求助時應避免一直道歉,淡化幫的忙;宋突顯協助者的重要性;人情交易;群組
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最近拜登在中東議題中捅出的大婁子,讓世界各國媒體紛紛討論他到底能不能收拾好殘局。此外,你有沒有朋友被劈腿,你卻還要勸朋友別幫渣男渣女擦屁股?英日文的擦屁股有幾個不同講法介紹給你知道。
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走出框外,思緒才能快樂自在。 其實和這週其他日子沒有什麼不同, 但讓心情盡量調整到尋常的假日, 失去了一半外出的自由, 理應想辦法得到另一半的福份。 所幸本府早已斬斷第四台, 沒有那些吵個不停的新聞和名嘴, 沒有亂言狂語的政客互鬥, 然後把臉書或其他網路平台該看的看, 該避的避, 該刪的刪, 最好是
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有沒有一些時候,某些行動的動機,從本來的單純想幫助人的心, 變成渴望被感謝、或是渴望自己被他人需要的心理? 但是其實兩者之間,沒有對也沒有錯。 幫助人可以是一種自發的責任感,而在一段關係裡互相付出也是應該的。 我們無法去斷定,誰對誰錯。
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前些年曾經有一群望子成龍的父母花費高昂的代價送孩子到所謂的潛能開發班接受離譜且不人道的「訓練」,這些屬於高知識份子的家長事後回想說同意這麼做,「好像中了邪!」
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這個秋,Chill 嗨嗨!穿搭美美去賞楓,裝備款款去露營⋯⋯你的秋天怎麼過?秋日 To Do List 等你分享! 秋季全站徵文,我們準備了五個創作主題,參賽還有機會獲得「火烤兩用鍋」,一起來看看如何參加吧~
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When you give without expectation, you become the happiest! 當給予而不期待回報,會變得很快樂!
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我們從小被教育要「犧牲自己,幫助別人。」,彷彿想讓別人得到好處,就得割捨自己。但這不是唯一可以助人的方法。還有一個是「做好自己,成就別人」。                 雲霞的媽媽今年85歲,5月不小心摔了一跤,摔斷左手肱骨、摔傷左腿膝蓋跟髖骨
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當學徒等於給自己提供一個機會,可以把自己與一位高手連結在一起,而我們能夠從內部了解第一手經驗,這即是畫布策略。 畫布策略的關鍵是在工作上給人幫助、給人鋪路、讓別人能夠把事情做得更漂亮。 以一句話來說明畫布策略,就是「be lesser, do more」把自己放在更次要的位置,給別人做更多的事。
第二天我心满意足地开始学习,逐渐地恢复到以前的良好学习状态。就快开学了,已经有部分学生返校了。 看完一段时间的书后,感到一点头昏,就把书搁置一边,在校园里漫步,散散心,也低头沉思,觉得自己就如同一老哲人。 附近拆房子的人在一起劳作,搬来搬去,犹如蚂蚁群一样忙碌着。我会停下来驻足观看他们一会儿。
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多數人失去機會,是因為他們從沒開口。 類似<好好拜託>這樣的書,不止是要藉此完備或者充實自己在拜託上面的知能-沒看,還真的不知道有這麼多的考究-,然而最重要的還是實做模擬。設想一锢情境,然後分扮求助,協助方,應如何問?可如何答?為何如此問?為何如此答?最後,統整,練習,熟悉,應用,檢討。然後才能將書
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多數人失去機會,是因為他們從沒開口。 拜託別人幫忙,並非「損人利己」的事,而是「利人利己」的事 「多數人失去機會,是因為他們從沒開口。」事業上成敗的關鍵不只是個人的能力和努力,還要有提出要求、請求協助,協力共好的勇氣和信心。然而在求助時應避免一直道歉,淡化幫的忙;宋突顯協助者的重要性;人情交易;群組
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最近拜登在中東議題中捅出的大婁子,讓世界各國媒體紛紛討論他到底能不能收拾好殘局。此外,你有沒有朋友被劈腿,你卻還要勸朋友別幫渣男渣女擦屁股?英日文的擦屁股有幾個不同講法介紹給你知道。
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走出框外,思緒才能快樂自在。 其實和這週其他日子沒有什麼不同, 但讓心情盡量調整到尋常的假日, 失去了一半外出的自由, 理應想辦法得到另一半的福份。 所幸本府早已斬斷第四台, 沒有那些吵個不停的新聞和名嘴, 沒有亂言狂語的政客互鬥, 然後把臉書或其他網路平台該看的看, 該避的避, 該刪的刪, 最好是
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有沒有一些時候,某些行動的動機,從本來的單純想幫助人的心, 變成渴望被感謝、或是渴望自己被他人需要的心理? 但是其實兩者之間,沒有對也沒有錯。 幫助人可以是一種自發的責任感,而在一段關係裡互相付出也是應該的。 我們無法去斷定,誰對誰錯。
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前些年曾經有一群望子成龍的父母花費高昂的代價送孩子到所謂的潛能開發班接受離譜且不人道的「訓練」,這些屬於高知識份子的家長事後回想說同意這麼做,「好像中了邪!」